Monday, October 10, 2005

World War 1 and the Gold Standard that Was Really a Tax Revenue Standard

Ben Green said...
"I think it would be extremely useful to analyze throughout history the transition period where an Empire (England in WWI, etc.) began to decline and the effects on its currency. It seems to be a game - of wanting everything at once instead of realizing that you can pursue at most one economic objective at any given time.Please elaborate more on England's transition during WWI and the actual mechanics of the decline. I find your posts very informative but have been unable to read much lately as very busy with work/school.

Regards,"

Anon said...

"Chromatic, while you make a compelling case above, I feel that due to the sheer magnitude of the credit and derivatives markets, large-scale defaults (which, IMHO, are highly likely when real estate collapses and our asset-based economy tanks along with it) will overwhelm the government's ability to print us out of a deflation. It's not like our government isn't in enough deficit trouble already. China and Japan, who have been dependent upon our spending binge over the past several years, will no longer have the continuing flood of dollars with which to help bail us out. Your thoughts? "

Thanks for your post,

Lets first take on you first statement about deflation and how it arises. This would indicate that the money supply is declining inducing reduction in asset prices (housing). The US dollar is overvalued is as a result jobs are shifting to cheaper, but not less incapable countries. So it looks like deflation is not only possible, but the pressures all look for a decline in labor costs and prices due to international economic pressure.

However, the US dollar is the world’s reserve currency. This means that all currencies are compared to the US dollar before any two currencies are exchanged with each other. Also foreign central banks, the countries banks have a majority of their assets in terms of the US dollar. This situation is similar to the post World War One when most of the world was on the British pound standard.

During WW1 England and all of the other European countries left their gold standards in order to fund the war. They therefore expanded their respective money supplies greatly. After the war England, whom was one of the financial leaders of the time, decided that they would restore England to economic leadership if they returned to the British pound sterling relationship to gold at the pre-WW1 level.

The banking system had already been moving away from gold as a world currency and replacing government debt (this is really the ability to obtain tax money) as the banks core reserve (the banks basis for lending out credit). Because government bonds, sovereign debt, is now used as a basis for a bank reserve, this linked money created through fractional reserve banking to a countries debt load.

This lead to a situation whereas countries now had a gold standard in writing, but in actuality there was no possibility of redemption in gold on a mass scale due to currency created through over lending. The ratio of gold as the core holding of banks was being diluted by the promise of future tax revenues (i.e. government debt). Currencies of the world were basically severely overleveraged in relationship to gold even before WW1.

Therefore a system of agreements was in place between trading countries so that promises were made for payment is gold, but gold didn’t actually leave their country en-mass before WW1. This is not to say that gold didn’t leave the countries, only that the rate at which it left was very negotiable.

Why a gold standard? Countries wanted to tie their currencies to gold because tying it to future tax revenue has always been unstable and lead to unlimited creation of money through printing, leading of course to the devaluation of buying power of the currency. With the illusion of gold backing the currency, the countries of the world could claim their currency was stable as long as they could redeem the paper currency for gold coins to the population. They then enacted policies to drive hard currency out of circulation until the final outcome was that gold was really only used for international settlements.

So in order to redeem their place as the center of the financial world, England came up with a plan that called for the British pound to return to its pre-WW1 value with gold. They then made payments to other European countries with British pound sterling. Foreign banks could then redeem their British pound sterling for gold inducing a control mechanism to slow gold from leaving England and making the British pound sterling the world’s reserve currency, much like the US dollar today.

As the value of the British pound sterling was still overvalued to the comparable money supply of other countries in its relationship to gold, this forced a negative trade balance with the other countries of the world. English currency entered the other countries like locus in a biblical curse.

During the 1920’s England refused to deal with their negative trade balance and provided money for their welfare state as unemployment skyrocketed. English sovereign debt and money supply went into to steep rise. Overextended as the English were, they continued to inflate their currency, but still kept their currency overvalued per agreements they had made with other central banks. This situation finally collapsed upon itself when England went off of the gold standard right before they had exhausted their supply of gold. This caused massive inflation in England.

So, as history dictates, countries will gladly sacrifice the value of their currencies buying power in order to pay for the social programs and government expenditures. Even though the banks are very very powerful, they cannot compete with the voting populist. This is because politicians are elected and not by banks, but by people. And politicians generally get elected by promising the what ever it takes to win an election.

As to our current situation with housing in the US, and the world for that matter you can expect some initial deflation in terms of the asset prices, but then the banking system will become unstable as banks become insolvent. If the banks cannot clear money transactions then the economic system get paralyzed as this induces first general insolvency and quickly, very quickly leads to bankruptcy.

With enough bankruptcies, which make it harder to people to earn an honest living, social breakdown always occurs. To combat this and keep in power the government must bail out the banking system. In bailing out the banking system will certainly deflate the buying power of the dollar. However the corollary to this is that prices rise very quickly.

Since the US dollar is the world’s reserve currency, exchange rates may not change that much between countries because this would induce similar situations all over the world.

Therefore Deflation, if you define it as the buying power of the dollar increasing can only happen as a lasting outcome with the total destruction of the banking system. The US would never allow this situation to happen, due to the fact that politicians are always trying to get re-elected and they need the political system in tact to do it, but the buying power of the dollar is an acceptable causality.

As for your comment

“I feel that due to the sheer magnitude of the credit and derivatives markets, large-scale defaults (which, IMHO, are highly likely when real estate collapses and our asset-based economy tanks along with it) will overwhelm the government's ability to print us out of a deflation”

There is no limit to how much the US can print. All that happens is that the world hyper-inflates with us, stealing the paper saving private citizens all over the world have accumulated. This would not be the first time a world currency has failed. The country in question just inflates in order to prevent social disintegration.

As I stated before the only way with paper money you can have deflation is if you can

A.) A mass exodus from the banking system, this is really not possible any more

B.) A competing currency is available, all other currencies are based upon the US dollar and gold is no longer a currency that can be used.

C.) Loss off Faith in the banking system, possible, but you have to at least have A or B in order to derail the amount of money created through fractional reserve banking and fend off inflation by removing money from the banking system.

D.) Hyperinflation can happen regardless of anything else. The government just prints its way out of debt. This happens every few years somewhere on the globe. There is NO DEBT LEVEL TOO HIGH THAT A COUNTRY WITH DEBT DEFINED IN TERMS OF ITS OWN CURRENCY CANNOT HYPER INFLATE OUT OF. Hyper inflation causes problems, but not nearly as many as the collapse of the banking system, at least from a political point of view.

China and Japan?

These countries economic systems are at risk just like any other country that holds large amounts of our debt compared to their economy. All countries will be affected, and their currencies shall fail, meaning their political system is destroyed as well, or they will hyper inflate, with almost as many political dire consequences.

Chromatic Dispersion

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Blogger Ben Green said...

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Refco redux, Tues., Oct. 11, 2005, 3:12 PM

Yesterday I reported on Refco. Still, readers are concerned about Refco. So this is a follow up.

“Hi Bill, Can you write more about Refco? How significant of a liquidity provider for the derivatives market are they? If they were to go under here just due to the credit ratings downgrades and significant move in the market - would this be a significant enough fall to send a ripple effect through the financial markets? I mean - it looks like they lost $2Billion in market cap yesterday. That has to be significant.”

Refco issued a press release exactly an hour ago.

Refco stock (NYSE: RFX) is halted and the SEC has begun to investigate. The stock instantly dropped about -50 pct before it was halted.

RFX had just became public in August. Now it appears the financial statements must be re-issued for many years. The ramifications are unthinkable. Independent fiduciaries will now have to make decisions as to whether they can afford to trade through Refco. Further trading that could end up causing clients substantial losses would certainly result in lawsuits, so all the major parties that deal with Refco must be on egg shells at this point.

The Company had been well-capitalized and considered in the industry to be solid. But it happens to be a major counter-party in derivatives trading, which means that other banks and brokers are relying on Refco to settle highly leveraged derivatives trades quickly. Refco, in fact, processes and clears over 1 million trades a day in derivative contracts. The total capital involved must be in more zeros than most of us could comprehend. The echo alone for any industry alert would be enough to cause major financial institutions around the world to scramble.

Should Refco fail, for any reason that would not be publicly known at this point, there would be a reverberation throughout global capital markets.

This is a situation that is in flux. All traders must keep their eyes glued.

It was just a month ago that I reported that Alan Greenspan had demanded attendance in his office of the top 15 credit derivative trading financial institutions in the United States. It was reported he was concerned about the industry sloppiness in clearing these trades. That is simply code that a failure of a major derivatives trader is not out of the question.

Once the credit ring is broken among the largest financial institutions that make up the capital market, there is a domino effect. The failure of one bank leads to another and then to another. That’s because the leverage in these markets is so high.

Derivative markets trade in the trillions. Clearly there would be insufficient capital on both sides should one side not be able to properly settle all trades. If that were to happen, the situation would set off a crisis. This situation would be what is called a systemic failure.

The capital markets trade on the basis of trust among the parties. Without a basis of unbreakable counter-party trust, the market system does not work. In recent years, as the total value of derivatives trading ballooned, the industry went to extreme lengths to ensure such a calamity would not befall us.

Refco is not yet broken, but it is being investigated.

Since problems of this magnitude are always kept quiet by the banking and securities industries for the reason that their credibility relies strictly on the public trust, it is my concern that there may be fire behind the smoke at Refco.

I believe this situation warrants a series of reports by me; hence I will stay on top of it.

But should the gold market suddenly lift here, you can bet the farm that somehow Refco is in the middle of a mess that will soon make headlines.

Posted by Bill Cara on October 11, 2005 03:12:20 PM
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Ben commentary - do you think this is significant or a red herring?

-Ben Green

4:56 PM, October 11, 2005  
Anonymous Alan Greenspend said...

Hmmm, hyperinflation or collapse... Mish
wrote eloquently and convincingly about this, but with a different resulting analysis.
However, you have persuasive points. Here are his blog comments on the subject,
FYI, Hyperinflation-

And one final link, China
Daily
is increasing the fear/instability factor, the transition could occur
faster than IMHO thought it would-

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Blogger Chromatic Dispersion said...

Ben,

I don’t know. Long Term Capital Management downfall started this way. It is very easy to keep something like this quite as long as the banking system itself goes along with it. I would think they would have too in order to avoid panic.

If Refco is really in trouble, then other brokerage firms will be attacking their holdings, so Refco will die, we may just not know about it. Hedge funds tend to be very secretive about their holdings for this very reason. However, when they are in trouble, they are forced to share this info, ensuring their downfall.

The Federal Reserve and the Banking system cannot afford a panic, so I cannot but help feel that this company will be absorbed by one of the eight largest banks in the world, hiding, with fed money stabilizing the fund. This would effectively hide the situation Refco has gotten them selves into.

I expect to see more of these in the future. All ready we have seen Fannie Mae, GMAC, and other large derivatives holders have gotten into trouble. When the number grows to the point when the banking system can no longer hide it, the true cataclysm shall start.

Chromatic Dispersion

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12:48 AM, October 13, 2005  
Blogger Ben Green said...

Chromatic,

That is an intelligent response and I think it is very revealing of the current state of affairs. We are still probably at least 1 year away from a complete destabilization. I have a few comments to both you and Alan Greenspend.

Re: Mish of globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com. This guy has a great blog and tackles some tough issues head on. I followed his blog closely for some time and even posted a question in his great "flation" debate - here is the link for Chromatic in case he hasn't read it: http://www.themarkettraders.com/articleimages/Shedlock2228.pdf . Anyways, what I believe Mish fails to take into full account is the regulatory response of the government. Chromatic has made a step beyond in his analysis because he understands that there are really two central issues and processes going on which will be significant. see further break out below:

1) The first central issue which Mish tackles quite well is deflation. He understands how a deflationary cycle works and makes some excellent analogies to Japan. I do not dispute that a slowing economy will generate both slower income growth, housing crash, etc. especially when coupled with the higher interest rates that are now manifesting themselves. This is the "collapse" that Alan Greenspend mentions. It is not an either/or scenario though in my opinion. You are going to get both. You have to have the collapse begin to unfold to scare the shit out of everyone and require immediate action by the government (the regulatory response part) - naively thinking they can stop something this systemic.

2) The second central issue Mish alludes to but I dont think he tackles it completely. That is the government response. This is where Chromatic's analysis is extensive and where his analysis excels. Mish says something to the extent that the Fed can print all of the money that it wants to but it wont prevent deflation. He also says something to the extent of there are too many vested interests involved to allow inflation at all because they would lose their ass - re: credit card companies, banks, etc. These are key assumptions.

Lets go a bit further here. From what I have read from Chromatic - he has addressed the government response much more expansively. He isn't just commenting on the ability of the Fed specifically to do something, he is looking through history at what governments have done to stop financial crises once they have begun. They have many more tools at issue than just cutting interest rates. This is basically where Mish ends his analysis - he goes so far as to say that the Fed can cut rates but that doesn't mean that lenders will lend. I think Chromatic also acknowledges this - he thinks the lenders are going to be bankrupted / in liquidation anyways. It is at this point that the Federal Government through the means of the Fed, some new governmental entity created by Congress or the OFHEO or whoever is granted the authority or many at once......... will step in and begin to lend directly. They will purchase the troubled loans from the banks, they will go as far as necessary to reflate the system. This is where things begin to get most risky. As the government monetizes the debts of millions of defaulting loans and "heals" the banks in the process they are going to flood a broken system with cash. This is the helicopter drop that Bernanke has promised if he is going to be let into office and confronts deflation. This is where "globalization" really begins to work its magic. The rest of the world has all the dollars you can imagine and they will be losing value hand over fist during this process as the dollar devalues relative to the rest of the world. This crunch is known as dollar inflation and will almost certainly result in a hyper inflation in the US. Think about it - if the dollar declines in value just 30% against other currencies in the world, their goods potentially cost us 30% more. And we don't import anything - right?

Chromatic is also not the only who thinks this way. I am a big Marc Faber fan and he has also published some reports with analogies to Germany pre world war II in which he has explained how a hyper inflation functions and the current factors we have at play here at home. So bottom line to summarize is I believe there are at a minimum two key themes to understand. The first are the underlying economic forces at work (as strong as they may be) re: deflationary housing bubble crash and subsequent loan liquidation and second the government/regulatory response to the collapse. They will not sit by and watch painfully as 10% of Americans lose their shirt - I do not believe that for a minute. Especially when you consider that when 10% of Americans lose their shirt they can take everyone down with them. The whole world for that matter for some time.

Anyways that is enough rambling for tonight, and I apologize in advance if I have stepped on anyones toes with my paraphrasing of their ideas. I am happy to retract anything that was overreaching. Also - both please feel free to critique, etc.

Regards,

Ben Green

1:11 AM, October 13, 2005  
Blogger Enron_by_the_Sea said...

Hey Chromatic :

Nice analysis! I am trying to look little further beyond the initial deflation leading to mass banking insolvency and the massive "helicopter-drops".

What would be the transmission mechanism? Last time it was home purchases and refis that created all the liquidity. I am thinking that next time it will be something else. Do you have any thoughts?

Secondly we have probably lost our perspective based on last decade. We tend to assume that there is infinite demand for credit and limitation is imposed by the banking system. Assuming that the "helicopter drop" happens what are chances that there is someone out there who "wants" a loan? If that's the case, it might be difficult to expand liquidity even though all the debts on the books of the banks have been monetized and they are able and willing to lend.

Just some thoughts. (I have not even really studied economics so excuse me for any obvious errors.)

3:26 AM, October 13, 2005  
Blogger Chromatic Dispersion said...

Enron,

I like the name. I lived through my own $6.5 Billion dollar bankruptcy in 2001 with my client Winstar. In fact it was the largest until Enron came along.

For your first question what would be the Transmission Mechanism. First I think we shall have an government organization like the 1930’s HOLC or the 1980’s RTC to buy up distressed loans, then either refinance these loans and/ or liquidate these loans.

Another historically used technique is to provide a war effort to put people to work. This technique is based first upon debt, and then upon monetization of debt (printing money). Many countries have done this in the past. Some famous countries that did this are pre-WW2 Italy, Germany, and America.

Another technique is through social programs that provided jobs to people and kept them busy. The Great Depression had The Works Progress Administration. However, this was no the only social program that kept people working. During the Depression America had the Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) that provided loans to distressed banks, businesses, and railroads.

I would expect spending on government programs through contractors to increase and provide the new social programs for today disguised as a security effort, government effort, or defense effort. I think we are in the New Deal II right now.

Your second question as too how much debt and inflation is just too much.

As long as the government can make loans, then people and business will borrow. Historically the government can make loans at below the international market rate, as they can expand the money supply. This will create a situation whereas people and business can make money through the shear act of borrowing and arbitrage.

When and if world wide hyperinflation hits then I would expect government to offer such loans to try to reinflate the monetary system. This would mean that these loans are given out at a rate far below the real rate of inflation, just like today with real inflation over 6% while mortgage rates are just over 5%.

As long as people can make money on the loans people will continue to borrow. Privately held banks tend to reduce lending under these conditions, governments do not.

This is not to say that I do not see a great reduction in the assumption of debt. When inflation really gets going things become cheap relative to income again and then borrowing takes off. I very much expect to see, just like before every banking crisis leveling off of debt and the money supply to slow as no one is interested in assuming additional debt for fear or inability to service this debt.

So as the purchasing power of currency falls, the absolute prices rise, but not as fast as inflation if your currency was overvalued before the inflation. This causes prices to lag behind inflation. Given some time, this then creates the opportunity for borrowing.

I would also like to say that I would try to get away from the money supply in absolute numbers and start looking at things in terms of purchasing power. This makes things much clearer. This way it is easy to understand how an economy responds to inflation.

If you create all kinds of money then prices go up, everyone is a millionaire, but a million dollars doesn’t buy what it used too.

Chromatic Dispersion

4:02 PM, October 13, 2005  
Blogger Epimethee said...

I don't think you have a correct measure of what's at stake.

Hyperinflating means basically :
1 destroying the real value of assets
2 erasing the value of most debts.

Those who would benefit from hyperinflation are :
indebted consumers
indebted companies
indebted governments

those who would loose are :
bankers
asset holders, especially very rich people.
Bank of China (for the fraction of their reserve in long term bonds)

Why would any pro rich government suddenly choose to apply a keynesian policy and destroy most economic inequalities ?

It will never choose to do so.
The path for change is well known and has been walked before.

First for years and years, despite massive imbalances, the pro lenders - asset holders (in short rich people) governments postpone action and allow bubbles to mount.

Then a horrendous crash happens destroying all confidence. The government discovers that it can not work it's way out by increasing the stock pile of debt. Nobody dares lending anymore.

It discovers (again) that it needs to create money of its own. But it can not act until all the rich people are politically dead, so scared of bankrupcy that they agree with the inflation scheme.

12:10 PM, October 17, 2005  
Blogger Chromatic Dispersion said...

Epimethee,

I agree with how you have set the premise that hyperinflation is not what any government would choose under normal circumstances. I have also given a lot of thought into the “Trust” issue with fiat currencies and fractional reserve banking. In fact this thought process led me to study the history of money in the first place so that I could understand

A.) Why was paper money invented
B.) How was money created in the Past
C.) What happened when other major currencies died
D.) How did the US dollar come into such promence in the world
E.) What really is money any way.

I did research on the subject to answer these questions. However I did research with the understanding that I am not in the trenches by any means and only read books on the history of money, therefore I do not sift through old records. Upon some thousands of pages of reading I discovered a few things which caused me to think hyperinflation was the only route and fiat currency was here to stay.

The first major issue it tried to get my brain around was why we have paper currency in the first place, uncovering the human need for the birth of fractional reserve banking. I found that some kind of fractional reserve banking had been around all throughout recorded time in one form or another. I traced its roots back to warehouse receipts, whereas a warehouse offering more receipts for goods than it actually had, by mistake or intent was actually engaging in fractional reserve banking.

The leap of understanding I made was involved with how receipts started to become a defacto money, giving rise to lending using receipts.

Another part of my understanding of paper money came from the fact that early traders would trade for undesired goods as a medium of exchange in order latter trade for goods that they really desired. This of course meant that traders could not get the desired good outright as the trader with the desired good didn’t want what the trader originally had. Therefore I made the link that commodity money, gold and silver, was only an extension of trading.

The trading property of Western money was forever changed in 1691 as the first official paper money was introduced in Massachusetts. This money was based on future taxes. As you could well expect, hyperinflation ensued. Why not print money for today and make those responsible to pay taxes tomorrow to pay.

Money was then linked to gold and silver making the first local commodity moneys in an effort to argue that inflation would be curbed hyperinflation which destroyed the paper money.

However the next leap of logic I made was in finding that all of these moneys hyperinflated as well.

As money progresses through time people create more and more elaborate structures to expand the creation of paper money in a controlled fashion. The Central Bank movement was formed in America with the through that the Federal Reserve could inflate the currency in a controlled manner.

Actually Andrew Jackson dismantled the Bank of the United States, America’s central bank before the Fed.

So the Fed creates money based on gold and future taxes. Then in 1973 the money is now officially based on future taxes.

Now, when looking at all of America’s debt it is becoming obvious to me that the US dollar is not in fact based on future taxes, but pure political power. Economics, military, and otherwise.

Most of America’s debt is based upon our social programs, with an estimated $55 trillion for things like Social Security, Medicare, and the like. The national debt the US admits to be about $8 trillion. The US is borrowing heavy amount to service this debt as it comes due and this borrowing can only increase with time.

But why do we have so much debt to pay for our social programs is because in our political system everyone votes. So anyone running for office has figured out that if you just promise the people who actually vote anything and pay for it with debt, that is the best way to get and stay elected.

So how does this process end.

The process of giving to the parasites of society at the expense of future debt payments leads to a process whereas the US must continue to borrow heavily. This trend will only stop when our political system changes to exclude having to pay of these economic parasites.

Therefore even though the banks are very influential, they cannot stop what is about to happen because it the selfishness of the human voter which is leading us down the path to hyperinflation, just like so many times before.

Chromatic Dispersion

3:33 PM, October 17, 2005  
Blogger Epimethee said...

I think we disagree on some of the most important points.
First I think that we face now a deflation risk. Hyper inflation may be a risk much further down the road. But that's not a problem. In many ways hyper inflation is a very good thing it erases debt.
Erasing debt on a regular basis is very good for the health of a society. Indeed jews recommanded the suppression of debt every 7 years and every 50 years. The christian religion is even stricter
{Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And do not bring us to the time of trial,
But rescue us from the evil one.

And we all know muslim religion opposes the debt concept.
So again hyper inflation every so and so, if there is no other way to erase debts, then great.

This leads us to may be the main opposition between us.
You talk about the social programs and then about
The process of giving to the parasites of society

So I suppose for you the parasites of the society are welfare recipients.
For me, the parasites of society are creditors and stock holders. All those lending money with interest and living out of the work of others.

1:25 PM, October 18, 2005  
Blogger Chromatic Dispersion said...

Epimethee,

I would agree that specific asset class deflation is what will happen first. As I have stated earlier the mechanics of bankruptcy lead to deflation while government response can lead to inflation or hyperinflation.

I personally think that getting rid of all this debt acquired since the Depression would be a good thing. It would be nice to have American’s with competitive salaries on a world scale so that our “real” working work force can make a living again. This overbearing financial economy is gutting America of its manufacturing and engineering jobs.

However hyperinflation would certainly destroy the current international monetary system as the US dollar is still the medium for which exchange is evaluated in. Also the problem with massive central bank assumption of US denominated debt directly effect foreign currency.

I am also afraid of countries going into economic strife with a demagogue leader who will declare another world war if the economic system fails.

Chromatic Dispersion

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